Comments on: The Cranky Middle Manager Show #151 The State of Training 2008 with Josh Bersin http://cmm.thepodcastnetwork.com/2008/07/09/the-cranky-middle-manager-show-151-the-state-of-training-2008-with-josh-bersin/ Don\'t let the weasels get ya down... Tips for being a better manager and dealing with the insanity of the workplace Tue, 31 Jan 2012 18:48:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Bookmarks about Josh http://cmm.thepodcastnetwork.com/2008/07/09/the-cranky-middle-manager-show-151-the-state-of-training-2008-with-josh-bersin/comment-page-1/#comment-85523 Bookmarks about Josh Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:45:10 +0000 http://cmm.thepodcastnetwork.com/?p=331#comment-85523 [...] - bookmarked by 6 members originally found by khedron on 2008-10-17 The Cranky Middle Manager Show #151 The State of Training 2008 with... [...] [...] – bookmarked by 6 members originally found by khedron on 2008-10-17 The Cranky Middle Manager Show #151 The State of Training 2008 with… [...]

]]> By: Wayne http://cmm.thepodcastnetwork.com/2008/07/09/the-cranky-middle-manager-show-151-the-state-of-training-2008-with-josh-bersin/comment-page-1/#comment-70773 Wayne Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:01:56 +0000 http://cmm.thepodcastnetwork.com/?p=331#comment-70773 Jon, you're on my short list, big guy. Love your blog and agree with most of what you have to say, just don't care much for the term. What can I say, I'm a hopeless semantic. We'll hash it out soon. On the other hand, isn't it good to know we care enough to talk about it? For those who wonder what the heck we're talking about, Jon has a fine blog that's frequently part of the Carnival of HR... Check out http://strategic-hcm.blogspot.com/ Jon, you’re on my short list, big guy. Love your blog and agree with most of what you have to say, just don’t care much for the term. What can I say, I’m a hopeless semantic. We’ll hash it out soon. On the other hand, isn’t it good to know we care enough to talk about it?

For those who wonder what the heck we’re talking about, Jon has a fine blog that’s frequently part of the Carnival of HR… Check out http://strategic-hcm.blogspot.com/

]]> By: Jon Ingham http://cmm.thepodcastnetwork.com/2008/07/09/the-cranky-middle-manager-show-151-the-state-of-training-2008-with-josh-bersin/comment-page-1/#comment-70744 Jon Ingham Thu, 17 Jul 2008 07:41:51 +0000 http://cmm.thepodcastnetwork.com/?p=331#comment-70744 Wayne, thanks for another great show - I follow Josh's research as well and it was great to hear you both in conversation. A quick word on human capital - does it help if I emphasise that I don't talk about HCM as managing people AS human capital - but managing people FOR human capital ie an important intangible capability that can make a significant, long-term difference to organisational success? The difference is that for at least some of the time and on some occasions - people should come first ie the business strategy takes account of the people management strategy rather than the other way around (this is the way that human capital is created). Happy to come on the show to explain more! Best regards, Jon. Wayne, thanks for another great show – I follow Josh’s research as well and it was great to hear you both in conversation.

A quick word on human capital – does it help if I emphasise that I don’t talk about HCM as managing people AS human capital – but managing people FOR human capital ie an important intangible capability that can make a significant, long-term difference to organisational success?

The difference is that for at least some of the time and on some occasions – people should come first ie the business strategy takes account of the people management strategy rather than the other way around (this is the way that human capital is created).

Happy to come on the show to explain more!

Best regards, Jon.

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