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The Cranky Middle Manager Show #189 The Trouble With Leadership Training- Kevin Eikenberry
Posted on 30. Apr, 2009 by Wayne in Podcast
Today Wayne Turmel and Kevin Eikenberry talk about why perfectly good leadership training often doesn’t work… and how managers can help make it stick. We also look at Babylonian documentation, a new Cranky Middle Manager Webinar and a free offer for listeners.
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Show Notes
0:00 Welcome to the show, gang. We tell truth to power, because let’s face it, Power will never find us here. We dedicate this show to Hamurabi, king of Babylon and model for all of us to document, document, document.
3:40 our quote of the week is from Machiavelli, but having a bad reputation doesn’t make it wrong. Do you surround yourself with smart people?
4:30 Welcome back Kevin Eikenberry, author of Remarkable Leadership and a good egg. This is an on the record version of conversations we’ve had off line for a while. Why doesn’t leadership development training seem to work? Okay, one more time… training is an event. Learning is a process.
9:00 There’s nothing necessarily wrong with your training or your trainer, it’s about linking it and using it your real world. It’s hard to show you’re now better than you were when you came in. How do we turn it into a process?
11:21 How do we turn learning into action? Kevin holds us accountable. Oh thanks, we need more of THAT. He does give me a good tip about giving yourself processing time.
14:33 Despite what they tell us in consultant school, this will never happen on an organizational basis. it starts with us.
17:30 Leadership is made up of a bunch of competencies (pick your own model at your leisure) but one big one is be a learner, and encourage learning on your team. Are you helping them apply what they learn when they learn it? Are you even sharing THIS show with your team and why the heck not?
25:00 Kevin tells us about his teleseminars. You can get the month of May for free by signing up and using the link here. or you can reach him at www.kevineikenberry.com
Kevin’s Resources
Erika Andersen’s new book ( she’s an upcoming guest!)
How the States Got Their Shapes
Don't let the weasels get you down
Okay, so the least I should do is be a learner, and that means sharing what I just heard with someone. How about an imaginary audience on this page.
1. You and Kevin used the word ‘process’ enough times to make me think you are being paid by my boss to brainwash me.
2. My pastor today shared how, as new Christian, he would buy a new Bible every time he felt he was off-track. A lot like some buy exercise equipment, I suppose.
3. Motivation (and by extension application, and process) is fleeting. There has to be a reward system that tricks us into doing the things we should do.
I’ve seen http://www.mint.com is supposed to be adding a personal budgeting system that is based on being a game. How cool is that? People learn rules of games very instinctively, and apply it, yet they don’t do that with leadership.
Any of this resonate? I guess it has more to do with learning and application, regardless of the subject.
Wayne,
For a take on leadership other than the list of attributes, I highly recommend, “Executive Leadership” by Jaques and Clement:
http://www.amazon.ca/Executive-Leadership-Practical-Managing-Complexity/dp/0962107018
All the best,
Norman
Thanks for the heads up. This is pretty interesting…