The Cranky Middle Manager Show #312 The Future of the MBA Ken Starkey
The Cranky Middle Manager Show #225 Turning Millennials into Leaders Lisa Orrell
Posted on 26. Jan, 2010 by Wayne in General, Podcast
Today Wayne Turmel talks to the Generations Relations expert, Lisa Orrell about the Millennials- not the usual stuff about how hard they are to work with and they won’t pull their noses out of Facebook long enough to do real work. No, we’re talking about turning them into the leaders and managers of tomorrow. Be afraid, be very afraid Also we talk about Henry the 6th, and get child rearing advice from Nietzsche.
Lisa Orrell, author of Millennials Into Leadership
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Show Notes
0:00 Welcome to the show, gang. Today we’re talking about those darned kids again, but it’s not how they work or who they are….it’s too late for that. We need them and they are going to be the leaders of tomorrow…. which is rapidly approaching since I’m feeling my mortality of late. The President of the US is younger than I am…. I’m officially out of excuses. And we have to mentor and teach them to lead or they might wind up like this week’s dedicatee King Henry the 6th of England. Take over too early without training and mentoring and it can get ugly.
4:44 The quote of the week is from someone with great parenting advice, although probably not the first person you’d think of…. Friedrich Nietzsche
5:40 Welcome Lisa Orrell, author of “Millennials Into Leadership”. This is not another show about how they want to start at the top, but some day we’ll get there and you can help. First we have to define the term, and it turns out I own one. They’re born between 1980 and 2000.
10:40 I look at my daughter and am really impressed by her energy and leadership skills. Their problem is they are too work-oriented and don’t have much use for timetables. They are loyal to people who actually earn it and are loyal to the work, not the company. If it doesn’t matter they won’t stay.
14:30 Virtual teams aren’t unusual for this group. Facebook is great training in a strange way. Allowing them to have the technology is the next step. By the way, the people surfing porn at work are NOT 22 years old….
17:00 A lot of young workers are getting promoted before they’re ready, so what challenges do they face? A lack of training is a huge problem- and unlike Gen X, these kids want training….. if it’s relevant. The biggest challenge is that they are immature… no kidding. Communication skills are key.
22:00 One of the big things to consider is their personal “leadership brand”. What do you want people to think and say about you? How do you stand out as a leader? It’s made up of your Communication style, Philosophy, Social style,Intellectual style, Emotional style and Ethical style. You can read a blog post about it here
26:15 Who do millenials turn to for leadership examples? Turns out it’s you and me (if we do it right). They also aspire to those who change the world.
31:00 Unlike those of us who hide from our bosses and want to be left alone, Millennials can’t communicate enough which drives some managers crazy
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